This bike was found in a barn in France. It has Olive green paint and CCM decal. A military collector in France wants to buy it and asked for my opinion on price. I have no idea. Help please? What's a fair market value?
Any other opinions please? Can we tell from the photo if it was official army issue or not? To me it looks like an ordinary CCM of the period. I wonder if someone is trying to make it look like something it wasn't.
Submitted by Wayne.Gillies on Tue, 12/25/2018 - 11:41.
Here's an excerpt from John's book
"Come 1939, CCM helped the Allies with another world war. “The company was less involved in the war effort than it had been during the First World War, but they still produced bicycles specifically for shipping overseas,” said McKenty. During the Second World War, CCM produced war-grade bikes, which were very different from the ones produced for the retail market. They were plain black to be less visible and foil was used instead of metal for the head badge."
There are exceptions, I have seen pix of RCAF blue bikes on aerodromes, probably painted by users. It may be that some Army ones were painted camo by users, but, I am of the belief(in agreement with John) that they left the factory painted black.
There is a great pic in John's book of a landing craft laden with bicycles
I have also seen WWII CCM bicycles in olive drab. This bicycle is in very poor shape. If I found this bicycle, I do not think that I would bother with it at any price. It is one of those bicycles that really requires a complete restorarion.Some parts may not be correct, including the seat.
Thank you for the replies. The collector in France has decided not to buy it based on this information. The seller wanted an outrageous sum. Thanks to the power of modern communication a sucker is not born every minute. Happy New Year and happy cycling in 2019.
Pic:
based on what I can see, 100 to 150. Euro
Any other opinions please? Can we tell from the photo if it was official army issue or not? To me it looks like an ordinary CCM of the period. I wonder if someone is trying to make it look like something it wasn't.
Doesn't look like anything special. 80$
Here's an excerpt from John's book
"Come 1939, CCM helped the Allies with another world war. “The company was less involved in the war effort than it had been during the First World War, but they still produced bicycles specifically for shipping overseas,” said McKenty. During the Second World War, CCM produced war-grade bikes, which were very different from the ones produced for the retail market. They were plain black to be less visible and foil was used instead of metal for the head badge."
There are exceptions, I have seen pix of RCAF blue bikes on aerodromes, probably painted by users. It may be that some Army ones were painted camo by users, but, I am of the belief(in agreement with John) that they left the factory painted black.
There is a great pic in John's book of a landing craft laden with bicycles
Mea culpa !!!..that complete excerpt is not from Johns book; portions are. Wouldn't want to be accused of plagiarism
I have also seen WWII CCM bicycles in olive drab. This bicycle is in very poor shape. If I found this bicycle, I do not think that I would bother with it at any price. It is one of those bicycles that really requires a complete restorarion.Some parts may not be correct, including the seat.
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Thank you for the replies. The collector in France has decided not to buy it based on this information. The seller wanted an outrageous sum. Thanks to the power of modern communication a sucker is not born every minute. Happy New Year and happy cycling in 2019.